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blazic167
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Unban request

Mon May 22, 2017 10:53 pm

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Your ingame name: 1stEB_VetTrp_Blazic
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Date and hour of your ban (UTC/GMT): 22.05.2017 22:50 GMT+1
Reason for your ban: Got in argument with some person/people that were racist and extremist. As response for some facist views i wrotte : "yes hitler is da hero......." as sarcastic response. I think that admin joined short time ago and did not know true context of argument. 
Write your apology: I apologise for mentioning Hitler in sarcasm. It was not ment literally, and it was response for actual extremism. 
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Re: Unban request

Mon May 22, 2017 11:05 pm

I was the person who banned you and I do not care if I was there or not the rules are there to follow and if you don't like that then you may as well stay banned.

I also do not care if it was a response or a reply you do not need to say what you said at all.

Have to wait for bearly to maybe unban you, but for now I hope you go give the rules a good read
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Re: Unban request

Mon May 22, 2017 11:12 pm

Here is the context in which Blazic was banned. I think that his commentary was, indeed, taken out of context.
The admin who banned Blazic joined at 22:33, so maybe he didn't notice the whole conversation.

22:29:55 - [1stEB_VetTrp_Blazic] i mean brexist started because of refuges i thnik
22:30:04 - [Averill] fuck refugees gas them
22:31:17 - [1stEB_VetTrp_Blazic] so i think that your politicans like farange used situation for their own benifit
22:31:35 - [1stEB_VetTrp_Blazic] insted of looking for political solution

22:31:48 - [Averill] Politicians nowadays look for financial profit, they do not work for the people
22:32:42 - [1stEB_VetTrp_Blazic] i mean the thing about brexit that pissed me off was that they used false propaganda
22:32:55 - *DEAD* [Averill] False propganda :DD
22:33:14 - [Averill] Fucking liberal cunt go fuck yourself, white European women are being raped by immigrants and you sit here ''Bu- Bu- hatred''
22:33:38 - [WarplockEngineer] I get the feeling Avrill is a little xenophobic
22:33:51 - *Admin*[16th_Sjt_Takeout]: Another comment like that and you'll get banned
22:33:53 - [1stEB_VetTrp_Blazic] im not liberal.....
22:34:07 - [1stEB_VetTrp_Blazic] i support deposting back refuges that make shit

22:34:11 - [Averill] Little xhenopobic  HAHAHA
22:34:18 - [Averill] I am a Fascist and proud to be one.
22:34:26 - [Averill] Atleast I stand for what is true, healthy and natural.
22:34:34 - *Admin*[77y_Cdt_George_Fifth]: carry on to be on and your gone then have fun
22:34:35 - [Pirate] kill jews man
22:34:39 - [1stEB_VetTrp_Blazic] but others that came here because of war and respect european values should be alowed to sty
22:35:13 - [JULOU] fascism = order, disciplin, loyality
22:35:23 - [Averill] And love for your people
22:35:23 - [WarplockEngineer] Do you dislike non-whites Avrill?
22:35:37 - [Averill] Depends Warplock, if they are degenerates or sodomites- Yes.
22:35:53 - [WarplockEngineer] WHat counts as a degenerate
22:36:03 - [WarplockEngineer] Anyone whos not you?
22:36:08 - [JULOU] its about to preserv race and the culture  who hate fasicm lol
22:36:21 - *DEAD* [Averill] Alcoholic, overly feminine, druggy, sensitive liberal, a man with no roots or sense of identity
22:36:23 - [1stEB_VetTrp_Blazic] yes hitler is da hero...
22:36:33 - *DEAD* [Averill] Of course what counts as degenerate is a deep question
22:36:42 - *DEAD* [WarplockEngineer] You dont have to be a fascist to preserve your culture
22:36:58 - [Averill] Warplock, I believe that at this time you do have to be one. Otherwise soon we will be extint
22:37:00 - 1stEB_VetTrp_Blazic is banned permanently
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Re: Unban request

Mon May 22, 2017 11:38 pm

I've also read the logs and it seems to me that his comment was just meant to be ironic, because people before him talked about political and racist stuff. And I agree with Bethrezen, George joined just 3,4 minutes after that so he couldn't see the whole conversation.

All in all, we will wait for Bearly, but we know Blazic, and he never did anything like this, so I think this was just a misunderstanding.
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Re: Unban request

Mon May 22, 2017 11:46 pm

Here is the context in which Blazic was banned. I think that his commentary was, indeed, taken out of context.
The admin who banned Blazic joined at 22:33, so maybe he didn't notice the whole conversation.

22:29:55 - [1stEB_VetTrp_Blazic] i mean brexist started because of refuges i thnik
22:30:04 - [Averill] fuck refugees gas them
22:31:17 - [1stEB_VetTrp_Blazic] so i think that your politicans like farange used situation for their own benifit
22:31:35 - [1stEB_VetTrp_Blazic] insted of looking for political solution

22:31:48 - [Averill] Politicians nowadays look for financial profit, they do not work for the people
22:32:42 - [1stEB_VetTrp_Blazic] i mean the thing about brexit that pissed me off was that they used false propaganda
22:32:55 - *DEAD* [Averill] False propganda :DD
22:33:14 - [Averill] Fucking liberal cunt go fuck yourself, white European women are being raped by immigrants and you sit here ''Bu- Bu- hatred''
22:33:38 - [WarplockEngineer] I get the feeling Avrill is a little xenophobic
22:33:51 - *Admin*[16th_Sjt_Takeout]: Another comment like that and you'll get banned
22:33:53 - [1stEB_VetTrp_Blazic] im not liberal.....
22:34:07 - [1stEB_VetTrp_Blazic] i support deposting back refuges that make shit

22:34:11 - [Averill] Little xhenopobic  HAHAHA
22:34:18 - [Averill] I am a Fascist and proud to be one.
22:34:26 - [Averill] Atleast I stand for what is true, healthy and natural.
22:34:34 - *Admin*[77y_Cdt_George_Fifth]: carry on to be on and your gone then have fun
22:34:35 - [Pirate] kill jews man
22:34:39 - [1stEB_VetTrp_Blazic] but others that came here because of war and respect european values should be alowed to sty
22:35:13 - [JULOU] fascism = order, disciplin, loyality
22:35:23 - [Averill] And love for your people
22:35:23 - [WarplockEngineer] Do you dislike non-whites Avrill?
22:35:37 - [Averill] Depends Warplock, if they are degenerates or sodomites- Yes.
22:35:53 - [WarplockEngineer] WHat counts as a degenerate
22:36:03 - [WarplockEngineer] Anyone whos not you?
22:36:08 - [JULOU] its about to preserv race and the culture  who hate fasicm lol
22:36:21 - *DEAD* [Averill] Alcoholic, overly feminine, druggy, sensitive liberal, a man with no roots or sense of identity
22:36:23 - [1stEB_VetTrp_Blazic] yes hitler is da hero...
22:36:33 - *DEAD* [Averill] Of course what counts as degenerate is a deep question
22:36:42 - *DEAD* [WarplockEngineer] You dont have to be a fascist to preserve your culture
22:36:58 - [Averill] Warplock, I believe that at this time you do have to be one. Otherwise soon we will be extint
22:37:00 - 1stEB_VetTrp_Blazic is banned permanently
Hey there,
 
In case you don't know me Blazic and anyone else who doesn't. I am Fierdsvain_Huscarl. I do know that it is rude and inconsiderate to be intrusive into someone elses Unban request but am going to be on Blazic's side. Since I was in fact a witness to this at the time this happened. (Yes, I do know that my name is not stated but the logs do look very familiar.

I do understand the rules and why he was banned for saying something Fascist in the quote; "[1stEB_VetTrp_Blazic] yes hitler is da hero..."  But I must say that Averill should the one found guilty, NOT Blazic. I agree with both Bethrezen and Diamond on this.

Why? Because look at the following quotes from the following Log above; I also posted them here: 

[Averill] fuck refugees gas them 
[Averill] Fucking liberal cunt go fuck yourself, white European women are being raped by immigrants and you sit here ''Bu- Bu- hatred'' 
[Averill] Little xhenopobic  HAHAHA 
[Averill] I am a Fascist and proud to be one. 
[Averill] Atleast I stand for what is true, healthy and natural. 
[Averill] And love for your people 
[WarplockEngineer] Do you dislike non-whites Avrill? 
[Averill] Depends Warplock, if they are degenerates or sodomites- Yes. 

*DEAD* [Averill] Alcoholic, overly feminine, druggy, sensitive liberal, a man with no roots or sense of identity 
[Averill] Warplock, I believe that at this time you do have to be one. Otherwise soon we will be extint 

[1stEB_VetTrp_Blazic] i mean the thing about brexit that pissed me off was that they used false propaganda
*DEAD* [Averill] False propganda :DD 

Pirate can also be found guilty due for saying this quote:
"[Pirate] kill jews man" 

I am not trying to get in trouble by any of the administration, It is just my opinion. Just the logs about Averill saying were just racist and fascist. Which is what I really do not like at all. But as George_Fifth said, you just need to wait for BearlyHuman to check it out

Not a verdict. Just my opinion.

Thank you and take care, see you all in game.

That is all I am going to add in this conversation.

Fierdsvain_Huscarl

P.S. Please lets not have any harsh measures if I was missing out on alot of stuff. I do understand all the rules, and I read them MANY times. I do know why Blazic was banned but This conversation was just about the person that should be banned [Averill]

P.S.S. I really do not know why the logs above are going wierd. Any solution to this?
Last edited by Ajay Ghale on Tue May 23, 2017 9:43 pm, edited 3 times in total.
 
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Re: Unban request

Tue May 23, 2017 1:04 am

I for one think the ban was a little extreme but also that might be because it was taken out of context, if i were the admin on at the time i would have warned him to calm down and if he persisted kicked or something along those lines. I agree with both Diamond and Bethrezen

Anyway i hope that George would show a little more tolerance towards someone saying 'Hitler' after all your steam profile clearly shows you are a fan of that genre. :)
 
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Re: Unban request

Tue May 23, 2017 7:09 am

I don't see why you are all trying to appeal for his ban, if he really wants to be unbanned the he would be here doing all this.

Yes I knew nothing before I joined but what he said was not needed at all even if he was just showing that someone else was being that extreme. There was also another 4 admins on at that time and I Don't see why you didn't tell them that the other guys was going to extreme.

So in my option the ban was not false or anything the rules strictly say don't mention anything to do with nasizm.

The third thing is my steam has nothing to do in game and I don't really care what you think, I follow the rules on game and that all we need to do.

Haramabe you also private messaging is not needed at all.
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Re: Unban request

Tue May 23, 2017 7:32 am

Intervention from us is needed because you banned him on the false accusations. He is one of the best players on the server and he never trolls and he is definitely not fascist, nazi etc. Next time you should check the logs before you ban someone without reason. I know it looked like that when you joined the game, but like I said, since it's Blazic, one of the good players, you should've confirmed it through logs before you banned him.

And being admin doesn't give you the right to talk with people like this, saying "I don't care what you think" and those kind of behavior. We are here to make this community healthier, not to act like morons.
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Re: Unban request

Tue May 23, 2017 7:34 am

We are appealing for the unban because Blazic's comment was clearly taken out of context therefore in a mild sense he did nothing wrong.

+1 Diamond Admins should act like Goodmins and not Don'tcaremins
 
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Re: Unban request

Tue May 23, 2017 9:21 am

Hello!
1. First off all I never wrotte against rules of the server (bashing, complaining about them, etc. ) and i do know them. If you read unban request i said that i know that i broke the rule about talking about nazism. That was not needed at all (my comment about hitler).
2. I did apologise for it, and then you writte that you dont care and that i should go read the rules if I dont like them (wtf?).In my unban request I NEVER complained about rules, AND I did not say that I broke no rule.  I never complained about rules (statement 1) nor in game, nor here. You banned me (i understand the reason for ban), at least I thought that when I would make this request you would check logs if my statements are true (I Know that i broke the rule, in case if you would like to writte to me that i broke the rule and i should be banned....), not writte  quote:
I was the person who banned you and I do not care if I was there or not the rules are there to follow and if you don't like that then you may as well stay banned.

I also do not care if it was a response or a reply you do not need to say what you said at all.
By your statements i get the feeling that you dont care about it and you will not accept other sides of argument (my explanation and apology)
3. 
 if he really wants to be unbanned the he would be here doing all this.  
Should I not wait for admins to decide or should I spam? I read other requests, and some admins said that thread should not be spammed. About top quote: Did i make an unban request or not?
Kind regards,
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